Apr 08 2012
The tale of two .com interviews
This totally needs to be proof read, apologies for anything that doesn’t make sense or read especially well.
I met a super great girl on a flight back in December. The only problem is that she lives in Chicago. I started looking at jobs in Chicago pretty early on, quite idly however. One job that caught my eye was for Software Developer (or Software Engineer?) at Google. I’m kind of a Google fan boy, working there would be super dreamy. So I applied. Even if things with this girl didn’t go well, a new city and a new job (especially at Google) would be awesome. I fully expected to never hear from them.
Fast forward a bit and things are still going really well with this girl, so much so that she starts sending me links to jobs in the Chicago area. One that caught my eye was ‘Senior Network Security Engineer’ at Groupon. I haven’t been keeping up with the news or anything, I thought Groupon was still employing fewer than 1,000 people. I applied after skimming the post, also not really expecting to hear from them; They’re a tech darling after all, right? I’m sure tons of people are applying.
Skip head only 3 days and I’m already getting a call from a Groupon recruiter. He loves my background and thinks I’d be great. A few days later and I got an email from Google (zomg!) saying they want to talk to me as well. My mind beings to think fanciful thoughts about pitting two companies against each other in some sort of high stakes bidding war. I have a phone interview with the Google recruiter who doesn’t seem quite as excited about my background but she certainly wasn’t negative either.
I then have technical phone interviews. My phone interview with Groupon was rather informal and non technical in comparison to my previous experience with Amazon. The guy interviewing me had himself only joined the daily-deals site 4 months prior and spent at least half the interview telling me how he was barely keeping his head above water. He was also my potential supervisor and kept slipping in phrases like “We could get you… er, whoever we end up hiring, doing X extremely soon.” It seemed like they *really* liked me. Plans were made shortly thereafter to have me come out for an onsite interview.
All this time I’m doing lots of research on Groupon and I’ve discovered lots of things that had made me uneasy. The refused buyout from Google for $6 Billion, the overvalued stock, the fact that lots of businesses were discovering Groupon wasn’t actually helping them, not to mention the change in the culture after the IPO. Then there was the competition from Google and Amazon and the fact that Groupon wasn’t really a technology company and the fact that they employed almost 10,000 people world wide.
Before flying out to Groupon I had my Google technical interview over the phone in conjunction with a shared Google Doc. I’d been reading up on “Cracking the Coding Interview” and felt more confident since I’d be typing on a keyboard and not standing awkwardly in front of a white board. The interview was set for 2 o’clock but my interviewer didn’t call me until 2:08, those eight minutes felt like an eternity. He was on the Image Search team, in mountain view, so no one I would be working with, at least not immediately, in Chicago. He asked a few boiler plate questions and jumped right into the coding question. The question at first seemed easy enough, but of course nothing is that easy. I struggled, a lot. Thinking out loud is still super counter intuitive, but everything I read said to do so, otherwise they have nothing to judge you on. I wrote my answer in Python, right in the shared word processing document, so I never got a chance to try stuff, also counter intuitive. I noticed that once in a while he was selecting all of my code. I’d say he did it 3 or 4 times, and it wasn’t until the end that I realized he was *trying* my code on his computer, a luxury I wasn’t afforded. He would then ask me questions about lines that had syntactic errors, things I would have the answers to in literally a second had I been able to try them myself.
Eight minutes no longer seemed like an eternity compared to the 45 I spent floundering this one coding problem. I could tell he’d long made up his mind but still afforded me the opportunity to ask him a question or two.
I’d blown it, probably, but maybe not, but probably. So much for the dueling job offers… But there was still hope for getting to Chicago! A company of 10,000 people and a market worth of nearly 12 billion dollars isn’t going anywhere any time soon, right? Off to Palo Alto! Which isn’t Chicago, but that’s where the people most interested in interviewing me would be on the day the interview was scheduled.
I flew out to Palo Alto, interviewed and flew home all in the same day. Its not an experience I’d recommend to anyone, especially if you don’t have direct flight. I got to the Groupon building, found it to be rather modern and recently redone. The whole place had a very green theme to it, which reminded me a lot of my first real technical job at a place called Digital Green. I had arrived somewhat early but I was hoping my interviewers would want to utilize that time since I had to turn right back around in a few hours. They did not, however, and I waited in their lobby for something like 20 minutes. Once we got down to interviewing it was much like my phone interview, where we discussed how Groupon grew so fast that lots of things didn’t scale up with it, network security being one of them. I only met with two of the guys but they both seemed pretty excited about me and I actually felt better about it as a place to work.
The waiting game began. I didn’t hear anything from Google for two weeks nor Groupon for three. This was sorta giving me hope on both fronts; maybe they were working on more interviews (Google) or hiring packages (Groupon). But as time kept passing that hope started to wain. The Google recruiter eventually got back to me in a voice mail, she sounded extremely sad but she informed me that they weren’t going to pursue hiring me. So I did blow my technical interview…
I had sent follow up emails to Groupon no response. I ended up going back to the recruiter who originally called me to get an answer. Three weeks after being flown out I was finally told that, in spite of being super awesome, they weren’t gonna hire me. They thought I’d get bored in the position, an assessment with which I didn’t entirely disagree, but he said they wanted to keep in touch in case a position opened that I would be a better fit for. He then went on to assure me he wasn’t “just saying keep in touch” but that he “actually meant it,” and said a few more times just how awesome I am.
So that’s my story. I’m back to having zero job prospects in Chicago, but that’s only because I haven’t applied anywhere else yet. If you’re in Chicago and want to hire me, do contact me.
